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How Matt Bees Built a $1B Brokerage in 6 Years

Sam Panetta sits down with Matt Bees, founder of Evoke Capital, to unpack the systems, mindset, and relentless execution behind building a billion-dollar brokerage in just six years.

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Guest: Matt Bees (Evoke Capital) Host: Sam Panetta Topic: Systems + Scale

In six years Matt Bees went from leaving a banking career to building a brokerage that has now settled over $1 billion in loans. The journey wasn’t smooth — it began right before COVID — but through systems, relentless follow-up, and hiring the right people, Evoke Capital became a high-performance brokerage machine.

1) The billion-dollar milestone started with a boring foundation

Matt attributes the foundation of Evoke Capital’s growth to one thing: systems and process. His background at Westpac taught him that scalable businesses rely on structured workflows, repeatable processes, and clear SOPs across every part of the operation.

  • Systems create scale. Without them, growth becomes chaos.
  • Refinement never stops. Even mature processes evolve constantly.

2) Starting during COVID forced extreme resilience

Matt launched Evoke Capital in January 2020 — weeks before COVID shut down economies. At one point he went from three income sources to zero, burning through savings just to survive.

  • Pressure builds performance. When there’s no plan B, you execute harder.
  • Early hardship builds long-term resilience.

3) Momentum drives massive months

Matt once wrote $67 million in a single month — not because of one giant deal, but because momentum was already in motion.

  • Consistent business development fuels pipeline momentum.
  • Follow-ups compound. Deals sitting idle often just need another call.

4) The four categories Matt uses to plan his life

To stay balanced while scaling a brokerage, Matt plans his goals around four areas each year.

  • Health: physical and mental wellbeing.
  • Wealth: building personal financial freedom.
  • Growth: personal and professional development.
  • Business: company goals and performance.

5) Routine creates high performance

Matt starts most mornings at 5:00 AM with training and time at the beach before work. That routine sets the tone mentally and physically for the day ahead.

  • Do the hard things early.
  • Routine creates discipline.

6) The Evoke niche: business owners and property investors

Rather than chasing every deal type, Matt focuses on a clear client avatar — business owners who are also property investors.

  • One niche, many solutions. Resi, commercial, and asset finance serve the same client.
  • Specialisation builds authority.

7) The first big deal always changes perspective

One early refinance — around $6 million — was a turning point for Matt. It showed the true earning potential of broking and reinforced his belief in the business.

  • Early wins feel life-changing.
  • Momentum grows once belief grows.

8) Hiring the right team changes everything

Evoke Capital now operates with a team of around 15 people including offshore staff. Matt believes hiring earlier would have accelerated growth even further.

  • Hire on attitude, not just skill.
  • Offshore teams create scale.
  • Training systems allow faster onboarding.

9) Follow-ups are the most underrated growth lever

Even at $35M+ per month in settlements, Matt still blocks time every day for outreach and follow-ups.

  • Most deals don’t die — they stall.
  • Follow-up converts pipeline into settlements.

10) The future of broking: bigger teams and stronger brands

Matt believes the future of mortgage broking will move toward larger brokerages, stronger brands, and more advisory-style relationships with clients.

  • Advice will be the core differentiator.
  • AI will assist — but relationships will still win.

The core lesson from Matt’s journey

Build strong systems, commit to relentless follow-up, and surround yourself with great people. Do that consistently for long enough and momentum compounds into extraordinary results.

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